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Blowing the whistle on dragon lady bosses: why men prefer male managers and women do too

  
  
  
  
  
  

Guest post by Jen Dalitz:

New research from the Tuck School of Business has shown that 90% of female MBA students prefer a male boss.  A 2009 survey of 2,000 British working women revealed 63% would prefer a male over a female boss.  And a 2008 survey from the University of Toronto highlighted that women working under a sole female supervisor reported more distress and physical stress symptoms than women working under a lone male supervisor.  

So what is going on here?  Are all female bosses dragon ladies?  And if everyone prefers working for a male boss, what does this mean for the sphinxx vision of seeing women equally represented in leadership roles?

While it’s one thing for movies like The Devil Wears Prada and The Proposal to portray women bosses as dragon ladies, do the movies actually mirror your experience?  Is it history that sets the stereotypical gender of a boss as male, or all other things being equal, do women and men actually prefer men as bosses?

When I received an article from one of the sphinxx leadership program members, with links to the ForbesWomen views on Male Vs. Female Bosses I have to say I was stunned by some of the comments: “Women have been evil bosses to me in the past”; “A man any day of the week”; “Female bosses are either b*tches or bimbos”.  Wow.

For my part, I’ve had some spectacularly bad bosses who were men.  I’ve had great bosses that are men too, and a couple of wonderful women bosses who remain mentors to me today.  I haven’t had any dragon lady bosses, thank goodness, but I acknowledge that some people have.  I wonder what your experience is - whether you’re male or female - and if there’s anything women who aspire to leadership roles could learn from it.

I’ve been trying to think back to the men and women bosses I’ve had over the years, and whether there where any discernable differences in their management styles.  One thing that strikes me is that most of the women were more efficient and effective - they were really certainly caring, but also very focused on the business outcomes and had a track record in delivery.  Some of the men on the other hand were more, well, “fun”.  You know, they were lighthearted, they were the first to round up the team and take us to the pub to celebrate our wins, and apart from the odd crisis at work, they appeared otherwise to have not a care in the world, which may have made them seem more approachable.  And one big difference is that all of my male bosses had wives who managed their life away from work.  Many of these wives made a full time job of looking after their home and family and, in turn, my boss... so I wonder if that played a part in how these boss blokes were perceived. And whether the fact that my female bosses didn't have a "wife" made them - out of necessity - that bit more task oriented.

It’s just a sneaking suspicion... and I could be wrong... but I know in my case it’s the stuff away from work that very much drives how my colleagues and staff perceive me.  When the pressure is on away from work, it crosses over to my work life as well.  But maybe that's just me...

If you’re a woman reading this blog, I’d love you to not only to discuss this topic with your peers, and share your views, but also to forward it on to your male colleagues and bosses for their opinion.  And blokes: truly, we’re up for it.  Tell us what you think it will take to improve perceptions of women at the top and get involved in the discussion. I'd love to hear from you all on this very important issue.

 

Jen Dalitz is obsessed with getting more women into leadership roles, in our workplaces and communities. As the sheEO and founder of sphinxx, the network for female senior managers, she runs the wildly successful Ascend development days, publishes a weekly newsletter of tips, resources and articles for working women, and mentors, advocates for and consults on topics relating to working women.

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Oddly, all my immediate bosses have been female. Almost all were approachable and all were supportive of having a life outside of work. My male bosses have actually been a rung higher than my immediate bosses and were not only less approachable (somewhat understandable if you already have an immediate supervisor) but also less tolerant of work/life management. Perhaps they had wives who did manage their family lives, so they weren't aware of the balance required. 
 
Now I work for myself. What kind of boss am I? I'm tolerant of work/life balance as long as I meet deadlines, but I don't give myself much time off.
Posted @ Thursday, July 29, 2010 9:33 AM by Erin Brenner
"And one big difference is that all of my male bosses had wives who managed their life away from work. Many of these wives made a full time job of looking after their home and family and, in turn, my boss... so I wonder if that played a part in how these boss blokes were perceived. And whether the fact that my female bosses didn't have a "wife" made them - out of necessity - that bit more task oriented. 
 
 
 
It’s just a sneaking suspicion... and I could be wrong... but I know in my case it’s the stuff away from work that very much drives how my colleagues and staff perceive me. When the pressure is on away from work, it crosses over to my work life as well. But maybe that's just me..." 
 
 
 
As I was reading your article I was forming my opinion as to the "whys"...and in the next sentence you expressed my exact thought! I, too, can't help but think a female boss's role is impacted by her home life responsibilities. However, I have to admit that my immediate boss who is a senior leader of my company is a single father of three girls and certainly carries his share of parental and household responsibilities. Honestly, I do not have a preference, male or female boss. For me, it comes down to a respectful supervisor-employee relationship; doing the right thing; work hard and efficient; and stay genuine. (Just my $.02) 
 
 
 
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Posted @ Thursday, July 29, 2010 10:39 AM by Joni
I have had some wonderful women bosses and some wonderful men bosses. I do prefer men. Over the 34 years that I have worked, more of the men have been very patient and understanding. They have seen how hard I work, and appreciated it more than most of the women, but not all of them. I have been bullied by women bosses and threatened by them without serious cause. A subjective bystander has always pointed out that the ones who have done so were overweight and not great looking, and jealous of my looks. I have always been obedient and tried to keep my feelings to myself, but I know that I have always been honest, hard working, and treated others like I want to be treated. I always try to put myself in their shoes and just keep on working, but it takes its toll when I know how hard I work and don't get appreciated. Men are better to work for. The women who I have worked for who are wonderful are the ones who don't take their frustrations out on the employees. They talk to their employees and let them know ahead of time what is expected in Staff meetings. They don't repremand you in front of anyone for your mistakes by putting you down. They take you aside and talk to you. No one likes to be embarrassed. I don't like judging them, because I might not be a great boss to work for either, but I would sure try to respect everyone all of the time.
Posted @ Thursday, July 29, 2010 11:09 AM by LeeAnn McLain
I have not had any luck with decent female bosses to date. My last female boss was a control freak. She was insecure, bossy, and she talked to her women subordinates like they were children. The only thing that made reporting to her bearable was the fact that I worked in Houston & she in Baltimore. I would have quit on day one if we were in the same office. I hear about how she runs the women who work in the same office, a nightmare. Long story short, she was 1st class b*tch. She taught me about what NOT to do and how NOT to act when I get to managment one day. SHe gives ALL women managers bad name.
Posted @ Monday, August 02, 2010 10:19 AM by Graceful
I unfortunately think female bosses are more easily threatened by hard working, top performing female subordinates. I think this problem leads to many of the negative comments about women bosses.  
I could not agree more with your "fun" comment. This is another double standard in my opinion. If a woman seems to be "too fun" she is either slacking off, not results driven or a bimbo.  
The answer is clear: we need more and better female boss mentors and examples!
Posted @ Tuesday, August 03, 2010 6:45 PM by Liz V
I have been a "woman" boss for over 13 years and so far so good! Leadership by example is what I practice. It's pretty simple, no power trips; treat others the way you want to be treated. I have the mentality that if you treat people with dignity and respect there should be no problem. I have had my share of horrible women and also men bosses but all in all they equal themselves out! 
 
 
 
Great article and something to definitely think about.... 
 
 
 
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Posted @ Thursday, August 05, 2010 2:55 PM by Nancy Shields
First, great writing and what an engaging piece with provoking questions. I wish I could launch a study to know if "dragon lady bosses" are more often found in small businesses versus large corporations, age range in the relationships expressed here, as well as time spent working together, the particular industry, as well as so many other specifics. I do hope that women ascending to leadership or managerial roles within for profit or non-profit do not ever succumb to the notion that to be a female boss, is to be "a dragon lady" or not. Frankly, this just sounds like another way of casting women in managerial positions within a two-prong system: good or bad. I would suggest there are many females and males within diverse and varied organizations who would benefit from better training so they can handle and best maneuver leadership roles and maintain as well as promote individual and group work ethics and growth.
Posted @ Monday, August 09, 2010 6:45 PM by Kate
So, why do men make better bosses and better leaders? Because women call their team their subordinates, constantly throw their legitimate authority around, in their “subordinates’” face, make their employees feel 2-feet tall, are undoubtedly neurotic , and praise and thank in an artificial "I don't really mean it, but corporate etiquette mandates that I say it anyway" kind of way.  
 
Men, on the other hand, do not change personality as they move up the corporate ladder, treat their subordinates as they would anyone else (and are basically just looking for the job to get done), without needing to flex their given authority and resort to "I'm the boss" - they use charisma and natural instinct to lead. When one can work without monthly hormonal imbalances to worry about and the threat of the weekly emotional Jerry-Springer moment and without fear of sexual harassment breathing down your neck, is that not SO much better?! YES, it is. Especially when you have a stable personality to work for (whether upbeat, depressing or angry, at least it won't change on you from day to day!) A male boss will praise you whenever he truly feels you deserve it, and it is always clear that it is heartfelt, because men don't feel the need to bullshit for little things, which women just don't seem to understand, unless the BS will spare someone's feelings. We don't throw around congratulations just to appease some HR review board. Consequence? Our team feel like equal contributing useful members who are not treated like shit by their neurotic fake female boss! Even in the odd case where a certain female boss might be intellectually more capable for a certain leadership post, her utter lack of sincerity (especially corporate American women), power obsession and self-absorbed arrogance make for an environment in which employee productivity will diminish, thus annulling any edge she may have had over her male counterpart. Does it really make sense to sacrifice workforce morale for the sake of a little more brainpower? Absolutely not! Do you see why Bill will always make a better leader than Hilary!?! This is why SOFT SKILLS are being lauded as the "new thing"; ironically, it is WOMEN who think this is their area of expertise, where their emotional intelligence is meant to shine through. Ha! Try shining through the dark dank miserable grey atmosphere these same women create! Try shining a torch at a black hole. Whereas, even moderate intelligence, combined with a genuine smile and congratulations, relaxed interpersonal communication and a stable environment will outperform as a leader EVERY TIME! 
Posted @ Sunday, November 21, 2010 6:42 PM by Jason D
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